
Comparing Trauma: Why Minimizing Your Pain Keeps You Stuck
Last reviewed: June 2026 by Annie Wright, LMFT
“Other people had it worse” is the reason I hear most often when a driven woman explains why she’s put off therapy for a decade. Comparing trauma doesn’t protect you. It locks you out of your own healing. This is my clinical case against trauma comparison, and a framework for understanding why your pain deserves exactly the attention you’ve been withholding from it.
- The ER Doctor Who Didn’t Think She Qualified
- What Is Trauma Comparison?
- The Neurobiology of Comparative Self-Invalidation
- How Trauma Comparison Shows Up in Driven Women
- The Relational Cost of Minimization
- Both/And: Your Pain Is Real AND Others May Have Had It Worse
- The Systemic Lens: Who Benefits from Trauma Hierarchy?
- How to Stop Comparing and Start Healing
- Frequently Asked Questions
The ER Doctor Who Didn’t Think She Qualified
Miriam is 40 and sits stiffly in my office in Chicago, her white coat folded on the chair beside her the way you’d fold something you weren’t sure you were allowed to take off. It’s late afternoon, and the sun is coming through the blinds in flat, tired stripes. She breathes out slowly. “I want to be honest with you,” she says. “I know what real trauma looks like. I see it every shift. What happened to me doesn’t compare.” I wait. I’ve learned to wait through this particular sentence, because it’s rarely the last one.
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What happened to Miriam is this. A childhood shadowed by her father’s unpredictable moods. The constant, low-grade vigilance required to avoid triggering his temper. She learned to read his footsteps on the stairs before he’d reached the landing, a silent alarm system running quietly in her bones since before she could talk about it. At her college graduation, she didn’t cry, because she’d learned that her tears would ignite her mother’s guilt, and someone in that family had to stay dry-eyed. Now, at forty, colleagues and exes have told her she’s “hard to get close to.” She has a theory about why. She just doesn’t think the theory is trauma.
Here’s the irony that isn’t lost on either of us. Miriam is an ER doctor. She has seen actual trauma, the kind with sirens attached. But that fact isn’t yet available to her as evidence for her own life, because the architecture keeping her from her own pain is sophisticated, load-bearing, and has been under construction since she was maybe six years old. After more than fifteen years and thousands of first sessions with driven women, I’ve come to think of what Miriam is doing as trauma comparison, and it is one of the most common, most stubborn patterns I see walk through my door. Women who’ve built extraordinary external lives while quietly deciding their internal wounds don’t meet the bar. Today I want to dismantle that bar completely.
What Is Trauma Comparison?
When a driven woman like Miriam says, “What happened to me isn’t trauma,” she’s describing a cognitive pattern clinicians call trauma comparison, or trauma minimization. It isn’t humility. It isn’t healthy perspective-taking, however much it dresses itself up as either. It’s a defense. A mental and relational shield built to keep her own pain at a manageable distance.
Trauma comparison measures your suffering against an external hierarchy of “worse” experiences. In the language of Richard Schwartz, PhD, the psychologist who developed Internal Family Systems therapy, it’s a Protector part working overtime, standing guard so the more vulnerable Exile parts never have to be exposed or overwhelmed. What that Protector produces, session after session, is a chronic invalidation of your own subjective experience, one that persists even when it’s visibly costing you in your daily life and your closest relationships.
I recently found myself returning to the Adverse Childhood Experiences research, the landmark study led by Vincent Felitti, MD, and Robert Anda, MD, because it names something I watch happen in my office almost weekly. Their finding wasn’t that some traumas are worse than others. It was that trauma’s impact is cumulative, not categorical. It’s a question of how much adversity a nervous system absorbs, and for how long. Their data showed that experiences that don’t look dramatic from the outside, things like emotional neglect, a parent’s unpredictable drinking, or chronic unavailability at the dinner table, carry measurable, lasting weight decades later.
Trauma minimization is the cognitive pattern of measuring your own pain against an external hierarchy of “worse” experiences. Clinically, it functions as a Protector mechanism that keeps you from accessing the more vulnerable wound underneath, maintaining emotional distance and chronic self-invalidation.
In plain terms: It’s when you tell yourself your pain isn’t real, or isn’t important, because someone else had it worse. It’s what keeps you from fully feeling and healing your own hurt. And it’s one of the most common reasons driven women stay stuck for years without knowing why.
In my clinical work, I see this pattern most often in women who were the “competent ones” in chaotic families, the ones who survived childhood by staying small, quiet, or useful. Their trauma comparison isn’t naive. It’s a sophisticated defense, a shield that has kept them functional and, for a long time, kept them safe. It served them once. It’s costing them now, and the cost tends to show up quietly, in a marriage, in a body, in a bank account of resentment nobody’s tracking.
There’s a particular flavor of this in women physicians, attorneys, and executives specifically: comparison to professional suffering. Miriam measures her childhood against the trauma she treats in the ER. An attorney I worked with last year measured her own emotional neglect against her clients’ abuse cases and came up short every time. The implicit math is always the same. If I’ve seen worse, I have no right to claim injury. It’s a category error the nervous system never agreed to make.
The ACE score is a cumulative measure of how much adversity a person’s nervous system absorbed during childhood, regardless of whether any single event looks dramatic from the outside. Developed by Vincent Felitti, MD, and Robert Anda, MD, it quantifies exposure to abuse, neglect, and household dysfunction, and correlates that exposure with long-term health outcomes including cardiovascular disease, mental illness, and premature mortality.
In plain terms: It’s a way to count how many tough things you lived through growing up, not to rank which was worse, but to understand how much weight your body and mind have been carrying. A high ACE score predicts real health consequences no matter how “dramatic” any one experience seemed at the time.
The Neurobiology of Comparative Self-Invalidation
The brain doesn’t respond to trauma the way a courtroom weighs evidence, sorting testimony into stronger and weaker cases. The amygdala and the subcortical structures around it respond to threat and overwhelm directly, encoding what happened in ways that bypass conscious narrative entirely. Bessel van der Kolk, MD, the psychiatrist whose decades of trauma research produced The Body Keeps the Score, has spent his career documenting that trauma is stored in the body as sensation, emotion, and implicit memory. It has nothing to do with how “severe” you’ve decided the incident was after the fact. Your nervous system was never consulted on what you think you deserve to feel.
Here’s what strikes me every time I return to the ACE data. It shows a dose-response relationship between cumulative adversity and long-term health, spanning cardiovascular disease to depression to autoimmune conditions, regardless of whether any single event got classified as severe by an outside observer. The nervous system’s burden accumulates quietly. It doesn’t announce itself. The woman who spent thirty years telling herself she “had it fine” is often walking around with a neurological load she’s never once been given permission to name out loud.
Something related shows up in the work of Brené Brown, PhD, LMSW, a research professor at the University of Houston whose career has centered on shame and vulnerability. What stayed with me, the first time I read her describe it, was the phrase she uses for trauma minimization’s internal soundtrack: shame’s whisper, telling you your pain isn’t worth naming. That whisper compounds the original injury. It silences exactly the part that most needs compassion. In my own clinical observation, shame and trauma minimization travel together almost every time. Shame about having pain at all, layered on top of pain that’s then compounded by the shame of admitting it exists.
There’s a second neurobiological piece worth naming here: the window of tolerance. Pat Ogden, PhD, the founder of Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, describes how trauma leaves the nervous system oscillating between hyperarousal and shutdown, with a narrower and narrower band of calm in between. One function of trauma comparison, I’ve come to believe, is to prevent the system from ever having to enter that charged space at all. If I can convince myself my pain doesn’t count, I don’t have to feel it. Which means I don’t have to risk the overwhelm that feeling it might bring. That’s adaptive for a while. Give it a decade or two, though, and the strategy becomes its own wound, sitting on top of the original one.
How Trauma Comparison Shows Up in Driven Women
Dalia is 38, a senior associate at a large law firm in San Francisco, up for partnership within the year. The weight of it is visible in the tight set of her mouth and the tension riding her shoulders like a second suit jacket. She’s been in therapy with me for six months, and she has a pattern I’ve started to name out loud. She’ll share something painful, and within a breath she’ll shrink it. “But that’s nothing,” she says, almost every time, like a period at the end of a sentence she didn’t want to write. In our fifth session I named it gently. “Every time you tell me something, you minimize it right after. What would it mean if it were something?” Dalia went quiet. The question landed like a stone dropped into still water, and I watched the rings move out across her face before she said anything at all.
What would it mean, if it were something? If her parents’ emotional unavailability actually counted, she’d have to grieve what she never got. If her perfectionism turned out to be a wound rather than a virtue, she’d have to rewrite the story she’s told about her own ambition for thirty-eight years. If her drive was partly a child’s response to a house where love had to be earned through achievement, she’d have to feel the grief underneath that, and she wasn’t at all sure she had the time. Billable hours don’t leave much room for grief. That’s part of the point.
This pattern shows up across professions in nearly identical language. The physician says, “I’ve seen real PTSD. Mine doesn’t count.” The attorney insists, “My parents weren’t abusive, just demanding.” The founder tells herself, “I had every advantage. I have no excuse for feeling this way.” Each is carrying a private ledger, comparing her pain against everyone else’s and coming up short on purpose. What none of them can see is that the comparison itself is a learned survival strategy, usually built inside a family that rewarded toughness over emotional expression.
Andrea, 44, a fintech executive, came to see me after her third long-term relationship ended with the same accusation from her partner: that she was hard to reach emotionally. In our early sessions she described her childhood as “totally normal. Two parents, good schools, we never talked about feelings, but who did?” She laughed when she said it. What emerged over months of careful, unhurried work was that “we never talked about feelings” had actually meant feelings were invisible in that house, unwelcome, and a reliable source of tension whenever they leaked out anyway. Her difficulty reaching people as an adult wasn’t a character flaw. It was a direct inheritance from a home where emotion had nowhere safe to land. There was no single dramatic incident for Andrea to point to. No abuse, no addiction, no obvious crisis. Which is exactly why she’d spent three decades deciding she had nothing worth healing.
The cost of carrying this doesn’t stay internal. It shows up in how driven women make decisions every day: overriding their own distress signals, pushing through physical symptoms their bodies have been sending for months. The nervous system doesn’t honor that ruling. It keeps sending the signal anyway, louder each time, until the body finds some way to make itself heard.
The Relational Cost of Minimization
Minimizing your own trauma doesn’t just distort your internal world. It reshapes your relationships in ways that stay invisible until the damage is significant. When you consistently invalidate your own experience, you send a quiet, unmistakable message to your partner, your kids, your colleagues: my feelings don’t count. People learn that message fast. They learn to overlook your limits and to stop noticing your needs, because you taught them, patiently and for years, that your needs were optional.
Gabor Maté, MD, the physician and trauma researcher behind The Myth of Normal, describes self-invalidation as a survival skill a child learns from caregivers who needed that child’s pain to stay invisible. When your pain is denied, he observes, you learn to deny it yourself, to survive in a world that can’t bear your suffering. That internal betrayal fractures connection at the root. It leaves driven women isolated inside their own bodies and their own relationships, brilliant at performing intimacy and rarely able to actually receive it.
“A life truly lived constantly burns away veils of illusion, burns away what is no longer relevant, gradually reveals our essence until, at last, we are strong enough to stand in our naked truth.”
MARION WOODMAN, Jungian Analyst and Author of Addiction to Perfection
In practical terms, this looks like difficulty saying no without a wave of guilt behind it, and trouble expressing vulnerability without shame close behind. It also means the relational wounds from childhood, the neglect, the emotional unavailability, the covert small betrayals, stay unaddressed and keep replaying in adult relationships. The woman who never learned her needs mattered becomes the woman who can’t ask for help, the partner who can’t be reached, the leader whose team has no idea how to support her.
There’s another relational cost that rarely gets named, and that’s how trauma minimization changes a woman’s relationships with other women. Once you’re in the habit of telling yourself your pain doesn’t qualify, you tend to extend the same dismissiveness outward, growing impatient with a colleague who “can’t handle” stress, or quietly critical of a friend who needs more support than seems reasonable. Healing this pattern opens a door that isn’t only about self-compassion. It’s access to the kind of sisterhood that only survives on honesty.
Jennifer Freyd, PhD, the psychologist who coined the term betrayal trauma at the University of Oregon, has written about how the suppression of one’s own pain is almost always social in origin. We learn to minimize because naming our experience once threatened something we needed: the mother who couldn’t handle your sadness, the father whose mood you had to manage, the family system that needed you to be fine so it could keep standing. Healing requires naming what was actually happening underneath the surface of “fine.”
Both/And: Your Pain Is Real AND Others May Have Had It Worse
Here’s the paradox at the center of all of this. Your pain is real, and other people may have lived through things that look worse on paper. Both of those things are true at the same time, without canceling each other out. Trauma isn’t zero-sum. Acknowledging your own suffering doesn’t erase anyone else’s. Naming your wound doesn’t steal one drop from the pool of legitimate pain available to the rest of the world.
Carla, 49, runs a nonprofit in Denver and grew up in what most people would call a “functional” family. Her parents were professionals. Her childhood looked stable from every angle you could photograph it from. For decades, Carla told herself she was lucky to have avoided the chronic emotional unavailability she watched shape her friends’ adult relationships, never quite naming that the same unavailability had shaped hers too. In our work together, she finally sat inside the both/and of it. Her parents loved her, and they couldn’t really see her. She was safe, and she was lonely for most of her childhood. She had every advantage, and she was still injured underneath it. All of it was true at once, and none of it canceled the rest.
The most liberating moment I watch driven women reach in trauma therapy is realizing that acknowledging their pain doesn’t require declaring their parents monsters or their childhoods catastrophes. The both/and frame makes room for complexity most of us were never taught to hold. You can love your mother and still grieve what she couldn’t give you. You can hold the privilege and the wound in the same two hands without either one having to lose.
This framework has real research underneath it. Judith Herman, MD, the Harvard psychiatrist whose book Trauma and Recovery shaped how an entire generation of clinicians understand complex trauma, pioneered the idea that healing requires a framework wide enough to hold ambiguity and contradiction at the same time. AND, this is the part I think matters most: that framework is what lets driven women finally set down the burden of comparative invalidation and reach the parts of themselves that have been quiet for a very long time. The parts that needed, that hurt, that longed for something and were disappointed, and were never once given a safe space to say so out loud.
In my work, I often ask the women caught in the comparison trap one simple question. Would you tell a close friend, if she described exactly what you went through, that her pain doesn’t count? The answer is always no. Not once in fifteen years have I heard a woman say yes to that question about a friend. The standard we apply to ourselves is never the standard we’d apply to someone we love, and that gap, between the compassion we hand outward so easily and the cruelty we aim inward without a second thought, is exactly where the healing work has to begin.
The Systemic Lens: Who Benefits from Trauma Hierarchy?
Trauma hierarchy, the idea that some wounds are “real” and others don’t quite make the cut, doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It serves a function. It protects institutions and power structures from having to answer for anything.
If “real trauma” requires a dramatic, visible incident, then the slow, cumulative damage that happens quietly in homes and workplaces never has to demand a response from anyone. That keeps systems like medicine, law, and finance intact and unchallenged, year after year. For driven women specifically, those same systems rewarded them, early and often, for minimizing their own needs as proof they had what it took. Saying “I was hurt” can feel like betraying the self-sufficient woman she spent decades building.
Jennifer Freyd’s research on institutional betrayal trauma shows how organizations actively reinforce the message that certain experiences simply don’t count, partly to limit liability and partly to maintain a culture of toughness and silent endurance. The physician learns not to talk about what medicine costs her personally. The attorney is trained, sometimes explicitly, to suppress any visible sign of distress. The executive reads vulnerability as a weakness she can’t afford in a room full of people waiting for her to slip. None of that is incidental. It’s structural, and it’s been working exactly as designed.
The families that raise driven women often run on the same operating system. The message was: be strong, keep going, don’t make this a bigger deal than it needs to be. That message usually came from parents carrying unmourned pain of their own, and it was often necessary for the family’s survival at the time. But it produces daughters who’ve learned to become strangers to their own distress. Of course you learned to minimize. You were taught by people who’d been taught the same thing.
Naming this systemic context isn’t about assigning blame to anyone, including your parents. It’s about understanding why the minimization feels so automatic, so righteous, so woven into your identity that questioning it feels like questioning yourself. It didn’t come from nowhere. It was learned, rewarded, and reinforced over decades, one quiet family dinner at a time. Which means it can also be unlearned, with the right support and enough courage to look directly at what’s been hiding behind “other people had it worse.”
This systemic lens matters because individual healing isn’t enough on its own, not entirely. When we understand that trauma hierarchy protects power, we can also start advocating for cultures, in medicine, in law, in tech, in families, that make room for the actual complexity of human suffering instead of ranking it. That’s political work in the truest sense. But every version of it I’ve ever seen starts with one person’s private willingness to say: my pain is real, and it counts.
How to Stop Comparing and Start Healing
The therapeutic work starts with identifying the Protector part that’s been using trauma comparison as a shield. In Internal Family Systems terms, this Protector is trying, in its own way, to keep you safe from overwhelm. But in doing that job, it also locks you out of the vulnerable pieces that actually need care. The first move isn’t to fight the Protector. It’s to meet it with curiosity. It’s been working hard, maybe for thirty or forty years without a single day off. It deserves acknowledgment before anyone asks it to step aside.
From there, therapy invites you to make contact with the Exile parts underneath, the feelings and memories that have been minimized for decades. Grief work becomes central here. Mourning what was never acknowledged. Mourning what you never got to receive in the first place. None of this requires winning some invisible trauma Olympics. It requires permission to feel your own experience without running it through a comparison filter first. Somatic approaches, including the body-based work developed within Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, help reconnect you to the embodied reality of your own history, because the nervous system holds what the mind learned to dismiss a long time ago.
Miriam, six months into our work together, told me something I still think about. “I keep waiting to feel like I earned this,” she said, meaning the therapy itself, meaning her own healing. “And I don’t think that feeling is coming. I think I just have to start anyway.” She wasn’t fully at peace with that yet. She was, for the first time, willing to sit with the discomfort of not knowing if she’d earned it, and to keep coming back regardless. That’s usually where the real work begins, not at the moment of certainty, but at the moment someone decides to proceed without it.
In my individual therapy practice, I guide driven women through exactly this kind of de-minimization, helping them reconnect to their own embodied truth and reclaim needs they’ve spent years disowning. The process isn’t dramatic, most of the time. It often looks like sitting quietly with feelings that have been waiting a long time: loneliness, longing, grief, and letting them land in the room without immediately explaining them away or apologizing for taking up the space.
For women who want a more structured way into this work, my Fixing the Foundations™ course offers a framework for understanding relational trauma and starting the healing process on your own terms and your own timeline. The self-assessment quiz is also a useful place to start, especially if you’re not sure yet whether your experience “counts.”
If you’ve been wondering whether your childhood was bad enough to justify therapy, I want to be direct with you. The answer is yes. Your nervous system’s response, your lived experience, your present-day suffering, these are the actual criteria, not some external checklist you’re failing to meet. You don’t have to earn the right to heal. The fact that you’re struggling is enough on its own.
Healing is a process of reclaiming your story on your own terms. Not the story a system handed you. Not the comparative ledger you’ve been keeping quietly in your head for years. The actual felt truth of what you lived through. For many driven women, that’s the most radical thing they’ll ever do, and it starts the moment they decide their own pain is worth the attention they’ve been giving everyone else’s for as long as they can remember.
If you’re a driven woman carrying the quiet weight of wounds you’ve decided don’t qualify, of course you’re tired. What I see in my office, again and again, is that the women most certain their pain doesn’t count are often the ones carrying the heaviest loads in the room. You’re allowed to set that down. You’re allowed to heal, without a permission slip from anyone, including the version of yourself that’s been keeping the ledger. And in my experience, when driven women finally give themselves that permission, they bring the same precision and courage to their healing that they’ve brought to everything else in their lives. It starts with one honest sentence, said out loud or just to yourself: this hurt me, and that matters.
Warmly, Annie.
Q: If my childhood wasn’t abusive, can I still have trauma?
A: Yes. Trauma is defined by its impact on your nervous system, not by whether it meets an external checklist of abuse. Chronic emotional neglect, unpredictability, and relational unavailability can all cause developmental trauma even without overt abuse. The ACE research by Vincent Felitti, MD, and Robert Anda, MD, shows cumulative adversity, including emotional neglect, matters deeply regardless of how “dramatic” it looks from the outside.
Q: What if I feel guilty for calling it trauma when others have had it worse?
A: That guilt is common, and it’s usually rooted in the trauma hierarchies our culture teaches us without ever naming them. Brené Brown, PhD, describes this as shame’s voice telling you your pain isn’t worthy of the name. Your experience is valid regardless of comparison. Someone else having it worse doesn’t mean you didn’t have it hard too.
Q: Is the ACE study relevant to me if I didn’t have “adverse” experiences?
A: Yes. The ACE questionnaire includes emotional neglect and household dysfunction, categories that get overlooked constantly but carry real neurobiological weight. It’s the cumulative load on your system, not just the dramatic events, that shapes long-term health and wellbeing.
Q: How do I know if my pain is real or if I’m being dramatic?
A: Your pain is real if it’s affecting your functioning, your relationships, or your sense of self. Trauma response isn’t about drama. It’s about survival. Your amygdala responds to threat regardless of anyone’s external validation. The better question isn’t “was it bad enough,” it’s “is it costing me something right now.”
Q: Can I heal from developmental trauma even if I can’t identify a single traumatic event?
A: Yes. Developmental trauma often looks like chronic relational neglect rather than a single dramatic event. Healing focuses on reconnecting with your body and emotions, often through modalities that address attachment and somatic experience together. Many driven women find their most impactful work centers on patterns with no clear origin story, just a long, quiet accumulation of unmet needs.
Q: Should I tell my therapist I feel like my problems aren’t serious enough?
A: Yes, and it’s worth saying early. Naming that feeling opens the door to exploring your own trauma minimization and the Protector parts keeping you from your experience. A skilled, trauma-informed therapist will validate what you’re carrying and help you move past comparison toward your own healing.
Q: Does comparing trauma ever serve a useful function?
A: It did once. As a child, minimizing your pain was often a necessary survival strategy, one that helped you maintain relationships with caregivers who couldn’t hold your distress. The problem is when that same strategy follows you into adulthood, where it now prevents you from accessing support, setting limits, or honoring your own needs.
Q: What if healing my own trauma feels selfish when there’s so much suffering in the world?
A: This is one of the most common shapes trauma minimization takes in driven, service-oriented women. Unhealed trauma doesn’t make you more effective at caring for others. It depletes you, limits your capacity for genuine connection, and can quietly replicate harmful patterns in your relationships and your work. Healing yourself isn’t selfish. It’s often the most generous thing you can offer the people and causes you care about.
Related Reading
- Felitti, Vincent J., et al. “Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults.” American Journal of Preventive Medicine 14, no. 4 (1998): 245-58. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0749-3797(98)00017-8.
- Anda, Robert F., et al. “Adverse Childhood Experiences and the Risk of Premature Mortality.” American Journal of Preventive Medicine 59, no. 4 (2020): 517-25. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amepre.2020.04.010.
- van der Kolk, Bessel A., MD. The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma. New York: Viking, 2014.
- Brown, Brené, PhD, LMSW. The Gifts of Imperfection: Let Go of Who You Think You’re Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are. Center City, MN: Hazelden, 2010.
- Maté, Gabor, MD. The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture. White River Junction, VT: Chelsea Green Publishing, 2022.
- Schwartz, Richard C., PhD. Internal Family Systems Therapy. New York: Guilford Press, 1995.
- Herman, Judith Lewis, MD. Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence, From Domestic Abuse to Political Terror. New York: Basic Books, 1992.
For further exploration of relational trauma in driven women, see my work on therapy with Annie Wright and the relational trauma recovery program. Related clinical perspectives live in my posts on perfectionism in driven women, parentification in driven women, and attachment trauma in driven women. To start exploring your own patterns, take the free childhood wound quiz, or reach out through the connect page. You can also subscribe to the Strong & Stable newsletter for ongoing clinical essays like this one.
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As a licensed psychotherapist, trauma-informed executive coach, and relational trauma specialist with over 15,000 clinical hours, she guides driven women , including Silicon Valley leaders, physicians, and entrepreneurs , in repairing the psychological foundations beneath their impressive lives. Annie is the founder and former CEO of Evergreen Counseling, a multimillion-dollar trauma-informed therapy center she built, scaled, and successfully exited. A regular contributor to Psychology Today, her expert commentary has appeared in Forbes, Business Insider, Inc., NBC, and The Information. She is currently writing her first book with W.W. Norton.

