
How a Relational Trauma Course Is Different From Therapy (and Why You Might Need Both)
A relational trauma course and individual therapy are not competing options, they are different tools built for different parts of the work. In this article, I walk through what a course can and cannot do, what only the therapeutic relationship provides, and how to think clearly about whether you need one, the other, or both.
- 11:52pm: Mariah and the Question She Couldn’t Answer
- What a Relational Trauma Course Actually Is
- What Individual Therapy Provides That a Course Cannot
- The Science of Why the Relationship Itself Is Part of the Treatment
- How This Shows Up in Driven Women
- What Happens Between Sessions, and What Happens Between Lessons
- Both/And: A Course Can Deepen Therapy, It Doesn’t Replace It
- The Systemic Lens: Why So Many Women Are Choosing Courses Over Therapy
- Signs You Need Therapy First
- Signs a Course Alongside Therapy (or Instead, for Now) Makes Sense
- How to Decide: A Path Forward
- Frequently Asked Questions
11:52pm: Mariah and the Question She Couldn’t Answer
It’s 11:52pm on a Sunday, and Mariah is sitting cross-legged on her bed, laptop propped against a pillow shaped like a boulder, the fitted sheet rumpled beneath her. She’s 39, a VP of marketing at a consumer tech company, and she has two tabs open side by side: a therapist directory filtered by “trauma” and “accepting new clients,” and the enrollment page for a relational trauma course she found through a podcast interview. Her retainer case sits open on the nightstand, the plastic tray still holding the faint shape of her teeth. She hasn’t put it in yet.
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“I honestly don’t know which one I’m supposed to pick,” she tells me two weeks later, in our first session. “Everyone online acts like it’s obvious. Get therapy, or take the course, like there’s a right answer and I’m the only person confused about it. I have a team of fourteen people. I make decisions all day. I could not decide between these two tabs for forty minutes.”
Sitting with Mariah that first session, I felt something I’ve felt with dozens of driven women who land in my office with the exact same two tabs open: not confusion about whether she wanted help, but a real, reasonable uncertainty about what kind of help fit what kind of wound. Nobody had ever explained to her that a course and therapy are not two versions of the same thing. They are two different tools, built to do two different jobs.
What I’ve come to think of as the tool confusion is exactly this: driven women who can build a fourteen-person org chart in an afternoon have never been given a clear map for the much smaller decision of where to put their own healing hours. I want to give Mariah, and you, that map. This article walks through what a relational trauma course does well, what only individual therapy can do, and how the two fit together, or don’t, depending on where you’re starting from. If you want the details on my own course, you can read about Fixing the Foundations directly, and if you want to think through individual support alongside it, you can also read about working with me in therapy or executive coaching for driven women who want more integration between their inner life and their outer one.
What a Relational Trauma Course Actually Is
A relational trauma course is a structured, self-paced or cohort-based educational program that teaches you the theory, language, and practical tools of relational trauma recovery. It is built to be taken on your own time, usually through video lessons, written material, and guided exercises, without a live clinician responding to your specific material in real time.
Judith Herman, MD, Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, and author of Trauma and Recovery, is the researcher whose three-stage framework, safety, remembrance and mourning, reconnection, most relational trauma education is built around. In her landmark study of complex trauma, Herman and her coauthors document how childhood and adult cumulative trauma predict a specific complexity of adult symptoms (PMID: 19795402), which is exactly the population a well-built course has to be designed for, not a population dealing with a single discrete incident.
A structured educational program, self-paced or delivered in cohort form, that teaches psychoeducation, clinical frameworks, and practical nervous system tools for healing relational trauma. It is designed by or in consultation with a licensed clinician, but it is not a substitute for the individualized clinical relationship that therapy provides.
In plain terms: It’s a way to learn the map of your own patterns on your own schedule, built by someone who understands trauma clinically. It teaches you a lot. It does not sit across from you and respond to what’s happening in your body in the room, in real time.
A course excels at things therapy often can’t offer efficiently: a complete, sequenced curriculum you can move through at 11pm on a Sunday if that’s when you have the hour, a written framework you can return to and reread, and a price point that’s a fraction of weekly therapy over the same span of months. When I built Fixing the Foundations, I designed it specifically to give driven women that complete map, a seven-phase cohort with 49 lessons and a 180-page workbook, built on the same clinical frameworks I use in session. You can read more about what’s actually inside the course if you want the specifics.
What a course cannot do is respond. It cannot notice that your voice caught on a particular word and ask you about it. It cannot adjust its pacing because your nervous system dysregulated mid-lesson in a way no curriculum could have predicted. That distinction is the entire spine of this article. If you want a fuller picture of what a relational trauma course is built to deliver and what to check before you enroll in any program, mine or anyone else’s, I’ve written a separate therapist’s assessment of what to look for in a relational trauma recovery course. That piece also expands a bit further on the same evaluation criteria this article touches on more briefly, since choosing any course calls for the same scrutiny as choosing a therapist.
What Individual Therapy Provides That a Course Cannot
Individual therapy is built around a live, responsive relationship between you and a clinician trained to track your specific nervous system, your specific history, and your specific material, in real time, session by session. That relationship is not a delivery mechanism for content. Decades of psychotherapy outcome research suggest it’s a substantial part of what actually produces change.
Bessel van der Kolk, MD, psychiatrist and trauma researcher and author of The Body Keeps the Score, has spent decades studying why relational healing requires relationship. In a 2024 study on MDMA-assisted therapy, van der Kolk and his coauthors found measurable effects on the transdiagnostic mental processes tied to self-experience (PMID: 38198456), changes that emerged inside a supported clinical relationship, not from content delivered in isolation.
A therapist can slow down the exact moment you go quiet. A therapist can notice the four-F response, fight, flight, freeze, or fawn, showing up in your body language before you’ve said a word about it, and ask about it right then. Pete Walker, MA, psychotherapist and author of Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving, names this precise capacity: a good trauma therapist tracks the fawn response as it’s happening, not as a concept discussed after the fact. I’ve written more about how that specific pattern shows up for driven women in a piece on the roots of childhood emotional neglect, which is often where the fawn response first got wired in.
Therapy also holds something a course structurally cannot: co-regulation in real time. Stephen Porges, PhD, neuroscientist and creator of polyvagal theory, is the researcher who gave language to something I’d watched in session for years before I had the term for it, your nervous system reads safety through relationship with another regulated nervous system, a process he calls “neuroception.” In his most recent paper, Porges lays out the current clinical applications and future directions of polyvagal theory (PMID: 40735382), and he’s explicit that co-regulation, one nervous system settling in the presence of another, is not optional scaffolding. For some kinds of relational wounding, it’s the mechanism of repair itself, and it’s not something a video lesson can provide, however well produced.
The Science of Why the Relationship Itself Is Part of the Treatment
Understanding why the therapeutic relationship carries so much clinical weight requires understanding what relational trauma actually damaged in the first place: your capacity to trust that a relationship can be safe. That capacity doesn’t heal through information. It heals, at least in part, through the lived experience of a relationship that behaves differently than the one that hurt you.
A term coined by Daniel Siegel, MD, clinical professor of psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine, describing the zone of arousal in which a person can process experience without tipping into fight, flight, or freeze. Related attachment research by Samantha Reisz, Robbie Duschinsky, and Daniel J. Siegel further maps how disorganized attachment and defense shape that zone across a lifetime (PMID: 28952412), with a DOI at https://doi.org/10.1080/14616734.2017.1380055.
In plain terms: It’s the “just right” zone where your nervous system can handle hard feelings without shutting down or spiraling. A live therapist can see the moment you’re leaving that zone and adjust. A course, no matter how well designed, is guessing at a general audience’s average pace.
A therapist trained in somatic work can widen your window of tolerance moment to moment because they’re watching your body while you talk. Pat Ogden, PhD, developer of Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, and her coauthors make this case directly in their foundational work on sensorimotor approaches to the treatment of trauma and dissociation (PMID: 16530597), with the DOI at https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psc.2005.10.012. Peter Levine, PhD, developer of Somatic Experiencing, describes a related mechanism he calls “pendulation,” the natural oscillation between activation and calm, in his research on interoception and proprioception as core elements of trauma therapy (PMID: 25699005), with the DOI at https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00093. Both mechanisms depend on a clinician tracking your actual body in the actual moment, something a pre-recorded lesson structurally cannot do, however specific its instructions are.
This is not an argument against courses. It’s an argument for understanding what each format is built to deliver. A course teaches you the theory of pendulation and gives you exercises to try on your own. A therapist watches for the moment your body needs pendulation and guides you through it live. Richard Schwartz, PhD, developer of Internal Family Systems, and his coauthors trace how that model evolved specifically around a live therapeutic relationship helping a person access their protective inner parts, described in their account of the development of the Internal Family Systems model (PMID: 37924221), with the DOI at https://doi.org/10.1111/famp.12943. A course can teach you what a “part” is, including the protective, controlling, or people-pleasing parts I write about in more depth in a piece on an inner child exercise for talking to your nine-year-old self. A therapist can help a specific part show up in the room and be met.
How This Shows Up in Driven Women
It’s 8:20am on a Tuesday, and Mariah is standing in her kitchen holding a coffee mug with a chip on the handle she’s meant to replace for two years, staring at her calendar. Six meetings today. A board update due Friday. Her chest has that familiar tightness, the one that shows up before anything has actually gone wrong yet. She thinks about the course lessons waiting on her phone, three modules deep already, and she thinks about the therapist consultation call she scheduled for Thursday, and she wonders if doing both means she’s hedging instead of committing.
Mariah is driven and precise about most decisions in her life, and underneath that precision sits a nervous system that learned early to prepare for every outcome before it happened. Growing up, she was the one who noticed her mother’s mood shift in her mother’s shoulders before anyone spoke. That hypervigilance made her excellent at reading a room in a boardroom. It also means she approaches her own healing the same way she approaches a product launch: research every option, minimize risk, avoid the wrong choice.
“I did the course lessons on attachment styles last week,” she tells me. “I could tell you exactly which style I have. What I can’t tell you is why I still flinch when my husband is quiet for too long at dinner. The course gave me the word for it. It didn’t touch the flinch.”
That sentence is the clearest articulation I’ve heard of the gap between the two formats. A course, even an excellent one, delivers insight. It rarely delivers the felt, moment-to-moment repair that comes from being met by another regulated person while the flinch is actually happening. A relational trauma course that promises otherwise is overselling what the format can do, and a woman exactly like Mariah, precise, thorough, used to solving problems with research, is often the one most at risk of trusting that oversell.
What Happens Between Sessions, and What Happens Between Lessons
The rhythm of therapy and the rhythm of a course look similar on a calendar and function completely differently underneath. In therapy, the week between sessions is where you metabolize what came up, often with homework or reflection your therapist assigned specifically for you, based on what happened in the room. In a course, the time between lessons is where you absorb material at your own pace and try tools designed for a broad audience.
Mariah described it this way in our sixth session: “Between therapy sessions, I’m thinking about the specific thing you said about my mother. Between course modules, I’m just waiting to have enough free time to watch the next video.” That distinction matters clinically. Individualized homework, tailored to what surfaced in a specific session, tends to land differently than general practice exercises built for thousands of different nervous systems.
This doesn’t make a course’s between-lesson structure worthless. Deb Dana, LCSW, describes something she calls the Autonomic Ladder, a way of helping people move from sympathetic activation or dorsal vagal shutdown back toward ventral vagal connection, and a well-built course can absolutely teach that ladder as a concept you practice between lessons on your own. What it can’t do is notice, mid-week, that you’ve slid into a shutdown state your course schedule didn’t anticipate, and adjust the next lesson accordingly. A therapist can text back. A course can’t read the room it never entered.
For a woman managing fourteen direct reports and a full calendar, the appeal of a course’s asynchronous rhythm is real and reasonable. The tradeoff is that the personalization therapy offers between sessions doesn’t exist in the same way between lessons, and naming that tradeoff clearly is more useful than pretending it isn’t there.
Both/And: A Course Can Deepen Therapy, It Doesn’t Replace It
It’s 9:40pm, back in that same bedroom, and Mariah has both tabs open again, except this time she’s not choosing between them. She’s enrolled in therapy for six weeks, and she’s just added the course to her cart, the retainer finally in, her jaw looser than it’s been in months. “I thought I had to pick one,” she says. “Turns out I needed the language from the course to even describe what was happening in the room with you.”
This is the both/and at the center of this article. A course can give you vocabulary, sequencing, and a complete framework you can move through at your own pace. Therapy can give you a live relationship that responds to your specific nervous system in the room, in real time. Neither one is a lesser version of the other. They are built for different jobs, and for many driven women, the two together cover more ground than either one alone.
Mariah’s course modules on attachment gave her language she then brought directly into session, and that language sped up work that might otherwise have taken months of circling to name. That’s the honest case for both, when both are financially and logistically possible, not because a course is incomplete without therapy, but because the two formats truly complement each other rather than duplicate each other. I’ve written more about how covert relational patterns from childhood specifically shape adult partnerships in a piece on covert narcissist parents and adult relationships, a topic that comes up often in both formats.
What helps is being honest about which format each piece of the work belongs to. A concept, a framework, a vocabulary word for a pattern you’ve lived with for decades, a course can carry that beautifully. A live moment of dysregulation, a rupture in a current relationship, an emotional flashback happening in real time, that belongs in the therapy room, where someone can actually meet it. For a longer look at what to check before choosing either format, I’ve written a full therapist’s checklist for trauma recovery programs that covers both.
The Systemic Lens: Why So Many Women Are Choosing Courses Over Therapy
It’s worth naming plainly why so many driven women reach for a course before they reach for a therapist, and it isn’t because they misunderstand what therapy offers. It’s because the systems around therapy access make courses the more realistic first step for a lot of people.
Therapy in the United States is expensive, often not covered by insurance for out-of-network providers, and frequently has waitlists of weeks or months for a good clinical fit. A course, by comparison, is available immediately, costs a fraction of months of weekly sessions, and doesn’t require finding someone with an opening who also takes your insurance and specializes in your particular history. For a woman running a team and a household, immediate access matters, and it’s not a character flaw to choose the option you can actually get into this month.
This systemic gap lands especially hard on driven women, who already carry pressure to solve their own problems efficiently, the way they’d solve anything else at work. A market that offers instant enrollment against a therapy system with real structural barriers can quietly reinforce the idea that needing a live relationship for healing is somehow less efficient, less disciplined, a worse use of time. It isn’t. It’s a different kind of resource, with different access barriers, and naming that structural reality can lift some of the self-blame that shows up when therapy feels out of reach.
Recognizing this doesn’t solve the access problem. It does mean you can choose a course without shame, and choose therapy without shame, based on what’s actually available to you right now, rather than what you think you’re supposed to prefer. If cost and access are the central barrier for you right now, it’s worth reading about how nervous system regulation and co-regulation work in practice, since both concepts show up whether you end up in a course, in therapy, or moving between the two.
Brittani, 40, a director of clinical operations at a hospital network, called me from her car in a parking garage the week she started her course. “I called eleven therapists off my insurance list,” she said, the fluorescent lights buzzing faintly over the line. “Eleven. Four never called back. Three had a three-month wait. The rest didn’t take my insurance or weren’t taking anyone new. I work in healthcare. I know exactly how broken this system is, and I still couldn’t believe it was this broken for me.” Brittani laughed, short and without much humor in it, and I could hear her keys still in her hand, like she hadn’t decided yet whether to go inside.
Sitting with what Brittani was describing, I felt something close to anger on her behalf, not at her, at a system that hands a healthcare operations director, someone whose entire job is fixing broken intake processes, eleven dead ends before she even got to the part where the actual healing was supposed to start. What I’ve come to notice in women like Brittani is that the course isn’t usually a first choice so much as the door that was actually open. There was a long pause on the line, the kind that isn’t quite silence. “So I bought the course instead,” Brittani said. “I don’t know if that was the smart move or just the only one I had.” She didn’t wait for an answer. She said she had to get to a meeting, and the call ended before either of us had said anything close to resolved.
Signs You Need Therapy First
Some signs point clearly toward therapy as the starting place, before a course, or at minimum, alongside it from day one rather than after.
If you’re in a current crisis, actively destabilized, or in a relationship right now where your physical safety is in question, a course is the wrong tool for this moment, full stop. Judith Herman is explicit that establishing safety is the first task of recovery, and a self-paced program cannot assess or respond to acute risk the way a licensed clinician can.
If your nervous system is regularly flooding into states you can’t bring yourself back from alone, frequent dissociation, panic that doesn’t resolve, emotional flashbacks that take hours to pass, you need a live nervous system in the room with you, tracking your state and helping you regulate in real time. That’s the co-regulation Stephen Porges describes, and it isn’t available from a screen.
If you’ve never had a course of trauma therapy before and this is truly new territory, starting with a therapist who can assess your specific history and build a plan around it, rather than a general curriculum, tends to be the more clinically sound sequence. A course can layer in well once that foundation of individualized assessment exists.
Signs a Course Alongside Therapy (or Instead, for Now) Makes Sense
Other signs point toward a course fitting well, either running alongside therapy or, for some women, standing on its own for a season.
If you’ve already done real work in therapy and you want a structured, complete map of relational patterns to consolidate what you’ve learned, a course can organize that consolidation more efficiently than therapy sessions alone, since sessions are often shaped by whatever feels most urgent that week rather than a fixed curriculum.
If access to therapy is truly the barrier right now, cost, waitlist, location, licensure gaps across state lines, a well-built course from a licensed clinician gives you real psychoeducation and real tools in the meantime, not a lesser substitute, but a legitimate resource suited to what’s actually available to you.
If you want language and frameworks before your next round of therapy, so you walk into sessions with more clarity about what you’re working on, a course can function as real preparation. Mariah described exactly this: the course gave her words for a pattern she’d been living inside for years, and those words became the doorway into faster, more specific work once she was back in the therapy room. If the pattern you’re trying to name involves a specific family role, the piece I wrote on the family scapegoat is a common starting point for that kind of naming work.
How to Decide: A Path Forward
Choosing between a course, therapy, or both is a personal and practical decision as much as a logistical one, even though most marketing treats it as a simple either/or. Here’s the same short framework I gave Mariah, the one that finally let her close both tabs and enroll in what she actually needed.
Ask yourself:
Am I currently safe, or is there active crisis, destabilization, or danger that needs a live clinician right now.
Have I done real trauma work before, or is this truly new territory for my nervous system.
Do I need a complete framework and vocabulary, or do I need someone tracking my specific body in real time.
What’s actually accessible to me this month, financially and logistically, not what I think I should prefer.
Am I looking for consolidation of work already underway, or a starting point for work that hasn’t begun.
Mariah worked through this list out loud in our eighth session, checking each line against the two tabs that had sat open on her laptop for weeks. She wasn’t in crisis. She’d never done real trauma work before. She decided therapy came first, with the course layered in a few weeks later once some baseline safety existed, exactly the sequencing Judith Herman’s framework would predict. She closed her laptop that night without the tight chest that had sent her looking in the first place, not because she’d found a perfect answer, but because she finally had a real way to think about the question.
That’s the outcome I actually want for you: not a rushed choice between two tabs, but a clear enough framework that you know which tool fits which part of the work. If you’re weighing Fixing the Foundations specifically, you can find the details on the course page, and if what you need right now is the live relationship only therapy provides, therapy with me is the other door.
Healing relational trauma rarely follows a straight line, and choosing the right support for this season of your life is possible without getting it perfect on the first try. Course or therapy or both, the goal is the same one Mariah eventually reached: a way of working that actually meets the wound you’re bringing to it.
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, but still, like air, I’ll rise.”
MAYA ANGELOU, poet, from “Still I Rise”
Q: Is a relational trauma course the same thing as therapy?
A: No. A relational trauma course is a structured educational program that teaches psychoeducation and tools on your own schedule. Therapy is a live, individualized clinical relationship that responds to your specific history and nervous system in real time. They’re different formats built for different parts of the healing process.
Q: Can I take a relational trauma course instead of going to therapy?
A: For some women, particularly those without access to therapy right now, a well-built course offers real value on its own. For women in active crisis, acute destabilization, or new to trauma work entirely, individual therapy is the more clinically appropriate starting point before or alongside a course.
Q: Why does the therapeutic relationship matter so much in trauma recovery?
A: Relational trauma damages a person’s capacity to trust that relationships can be safe. Repair often depends, at least in part, on the lived experience of a relationship that behaves differently, something research on co-regulation and the therapeutic alliance points to consistently. A course can’t replicate a live, responsive relationship.
Q: What can a relational trauma course do that therapy sessions often can’t?
A: A course can deliver a complete, sequenced curriculum on your own schedule, at a fraction of the cost of months of weekly therapy, with material you can revisit as many times as you want. Therapy sessions are often shaped by whatever feels most urgent that week, which makes systematic, self-paced coverage harder to get in the room alone.
Q: How do I know if I should do a course, therapy, or both?
A: Start by checking for active crisis or destabilization, which points to therapy first. Then consider whether you’ve done prior trauma work, what’s actually accessible to you financially and logistically this month, and whether you’re looking to consolidate existing work or start from the beginning. Many women find real value in both, run alongside each other.
Q: Is Fixing the Foundations open for enrollment right now?
A: Fixing the Foundations is currently waitlist only. The cart opens September 8, 2026. You can join the waitlist and read the full curriculum on the course page at https://anniewright.com/fixing-the-foundations/ in the meantime.
Related Reading
- Herman, Judith L. Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence, from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror. Basic Books, 1992.
- van der Kolk, Bessel A. The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma. Viking, 2014.
- Porges, Stephen W. The Polyvagal Theory: Neurophysiological Foundations of Emotions, Attachment, Communication, and Self-Regulation. W.W. Norton & Company, 2011.
- Walker, Pete. Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013.
- Relational Trauma Recovery Course: What to Look For (A Therapist’s Assessment)
- Is Fixing the Foundations Right for You?
- Childhood Emotional Neglect: Signs, Effects & How to Heal
- An Inner Child Exercise: Talking to Your 9-Year-Old Self
- Nervous System Regulation: A Complete Guide
- Co-Regulation: What It Is and Why It Matters
References
Peer-Reviewed Research (Vancouver)
- van der Kolk BA, Wang JB, Yehuda R, Bedrosian L, Coker AR, Harrison C, et al. Effects of MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD on self-experience. PLoS One. 2024;19(1):e0295926. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0295926. PMID: 38198456.
- Cloitre M, Stolbach BC, Herman JL, van der Kolk B, Pynoos R, Wang J, et al. A developmental approach to complex PTSD: childhood and adult cumulative trauma as predictors of symptom complexity. J Trauma Stress. 2009;22(5):399-408. doi:10.1002/jts.20444. PMID: 19795402.
- Payne P, Levine PA, Crane-Godreau MA. Somatic experiencing: using interoception and proprioception as core elements of trauma therapy. Front Psychol. 2015;6:93. doi:10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00093. PMID: 25699005.
- Porges SW. Polyvagal Theory: Current Status, Clinical Applications, and Future Directions. Clin Neuropsychiatry. 2025;22(3):169-184. doi:10.36131/cnfioritieditore20250301. PMID: 40735382.
- Reisz S, Duschinsky R, Siegel DJ. Disorganized attachment and defense: exploring John Bowlby’s unpublished reflections. Attach Hum Dev. 2018;20(2):107-134. doi:10.1080/14616734.2017.1380055. PMID: 28952412.
- Ogden P, Pain C, Fisher J. A sensorimotor approach to the treatment of trauma and dissociation. Psychiatr Clin North Am. 2006;29(1):263-79, xi-xii. doi:10.1016/j.psc.2005.10.012. PMID: 16530597.
- Brenner EG, Schwartz RC, Becker C. Development of the internal family systems model: Honoring contributions from family systems therapies. Fam Process. 2023;62(4):1290-1306. doi:10.1111/famp.12943. PMID: 37924221.
Books & Cultural Sources (Chicago Author-Date)
- Walker, Pete. Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013.
- Dana, Deb. The Polyvagal Theory in Therapy. W. W. Norton & Company, 2018.
- Angelou, Maya. And Still I Rise. Random House, 1978.
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