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Inside Out 2 – Perspective from a trauma therapist and mom

Upper Bodies of Three Abstract People with Grunge Texture representing insights on Inside Out 2 by childhood trauma therapist, Annie Wright

I share insights about Pixar’s sequel Inside Out 2 and how it might apply to those who come from traumatic backgrounds.

Upper Bodies of Three Abstract People with Grunge Texture representing insights on Inside Out 2 by childhood trauma therapist, Annie Wright

Inside Out 2 – Perspective from a trauma therapist and mom

Two weeks ago I shared my reflections about Inside Out when I introduced my five year old daughter to the movie for the first time (and saw it again for the first time since 2015!).

Introducing her to it was the precursor to taking her to our favorite theater to see the sequel Inside Out 2, and in today’s piece, I’m going to share my insights about the sequel as a mom and trauma therapist, specifically with a lens as to how this might apply to those of us who come from relational trauma backgrounds.

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A trauma therapist and mom’s thoughts on Inside Out 2.

  • Obviously, I was happy to see an inclusion of a broader range of emotions represented in this film. It’s like expanding beyond the primary colors of a paint palette to create a more beautiful nuanced picture when a broader, more complex range of emotions comes online. 
  • But, realistically, research shows that the onset of more complex and nuanced emotions – like anxiety/worry, shame, envy – can onset much earlier than what was modeled in Inside Out 2 when these emotions got introduced to Riley’s “emotional control headquarters” when she turned 13.
  • And gosh, I’d be remiss in saying this but for any child who experienced relational trauma or any iteration of childhood neglect, abuse or dysfunctional that caused them to feel unsafe or that compromised their dignity, anxiety would have likely “come online” a heck of a lot sooner than 13 and, as research suggests, been at the helm of the proverbial control panel alongside anger as the dominant feeling states.
  • So that’s another thing that struck me as I watched Inside Out 2 – adolescence is inherently, painfully uncomfortable (I could see so many of us middle aged parents there with our kiddos who have yet to journey through puberty) squirming uncomfortably at certain moments having that lived experience under our belts. So puberty is pretty painful and sucky, we can agree. Now imagine doing that in a family system devoid of the safety and stability Riley’s family provided and imagine how much more painful still that becomes for folks with relational trauma histories. Indeed, research shows that childhood trauma significantly increases the risk of various mental health conditions during adolescence, including depression, anxiety, and PTSD. Adolescents who experienced multiple traumatic events show higher levels of these symptoms as they journey through puberty.
  • I felt deeply, uncomfortably seen by that scene where anxiety is losing her sh*t trying to manage Riley’s critical soccer scrimmage performance. That scene – with a hurricane of anxiety whirling around with fear and frozenness at the center leading to Riley on the verge of a panic attack – will likely be hauntingly familiar for any of who live with anxiety full-stop and/or as a result of our trauma histories. Between that scene and Louisa’s anthemic “Surface Pressure” you basically have my autobiography. Anyone else out there relate? 
  • I was so delighted to see the concept of the architecture of personality concretized into an image in Inside Out 2. Research tells us that personality development involves both temperament (natural tendencies) and character (individual differences in goals and values shaped by experience). These multidimensional components interact to form a coherent personality structure. So that’s why we see one version of Riley’s personality architecture early in the movie up in headquarters, replaced by another structure more informed by anxiety, and then finally a cohesive one that contains both the pre-anxiety and post-anxiety experiences and emotions. Again, bearing in mind those from relational trauma histories, I’d make a case that the architecture of this personality may likely be maladaptively formed in response to their traumatic experiences even more so than their non-traumatized peers.
  • And I loved how, at the end of the movie, Joy (and the other emotions) gave Anxiety a concrete, time-sensitive job (as well as soothed her via hot tea and a massage chair) to occupy her instead of attempting to run the show with bigger issues. This is a smart behavioral intervention tool – use the anxiety and don’t pretend it’s not there but instead give it a task and outlet. In the case of Inside Out 2, it was studying for the Spanish test. For you, it could be making a list, developing a project plan, etc. As the saying goes, the antidote to anxiety is action (just don’t let it be the action that takes over the whole show).
  • Finally, per my last essay on Inside Out, I DID see what I had been hoping for: a blue/red memory ball that captures the nuance of dual emotions being held and experiences at the same time. And since I personally experience and professionally witness this dual emotional often, I was delighted to see it represented.

I honestly loved this movie. I love the Inside Out series. I wish Pixar would just develop a whole slew of them (cough cough, I’d particularly love to see a middle aged mom inner life expanded upon!).

Do I think they’re the whole of what’s needed when it comes to emotional psychoeducation? No.

Do I think they do a marvelous job at starting the conversation so more emotional psychoeducation can happen? 100% yes.

If you haven’t seen Inside Out and Inside Out 2, I hope you’ll prioritize doing so.

Whether you come from a relational trauma background or not, they’re truly delightful and helpful and validating little films. 

And now I’d love to hear from you in the comments below:

Did you get to see Inside Out 2 yet? If so, what did YOU love about this movie? What’s one observation you took from the movie that would be helpful for someone from a relational trauma background to hear?

If you feel so inclined, please leave a message so our community of 30,000 blog readers can benefit from your share and wisdom.

Finally, as you contemplate beginning relational trauma therapy to recover from your own trauma symptoms, I would strongly encourage you to work with a licensed mental health professional who is also trained in an evidence-based trauma modality (like EMDR).

If you live in either California or Florida, and you would like tailored, expert support, either myself or my talented team of childhood trauma clinicians at my boutique, trauma-informed therapy center – Evergreen Counseling – can be of support to you. 

Please just book a complimentary 20-minute consult call with our center’s clinical intake director and she can match you to an relational trauma therapist on our team who is the best fit for you clinically, relationally, and logistically (and it very well may be me who is the best fit for you as a therapist!).

And wherever you live, please consider enrolling in the waitlist for my new signature course – Overcoming Relational Trauma: The Course – or my other online course, Hard Families, Good Boundaries, both designed to support you in healing your adverse early beginnings and creating a beautiful adulthood for yourself, no matter where you started out in life.

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So thank you. 

And until next time, please take such good care of yourself. You’re so worth it.

Warmly, Annie

 

References

  1. Russell, J., & Paris, F. (1994). Do Children acquire Concepts for Complex Emotions Abruptly?. International Journal of Behavioral Development, 17, 349 – 365. https://doi.org/10.1177/016502549401700207.
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  1. MT says

    Loved it! I’m a survivor of childhood trauma and now a psychologist working with children. I’m also a mom of three girls in very different stages of development. I had my first child as a teen myself. My second in my 20s. And my last in my 30s. We all saw the movie together–a 43-year-old, a 24-year-old, a 15-year-old, and an almost 6-year-old. I’m sure we each took something away, but I kept turning to my middle child, my teen daughter, who has been really going through it with anxiety. And I hoped so many of the things I’ve been saying to her all her life–but more intensely lately–were resonating off the screen. That everything she’s going through is part of being human. That I love her at her core because she has a beautiful core that is evolving as it should. She was at the forefront of my mind but I’m looking forward to re-watching to connect them to the other parts of me.

    • Annie says

      Hi MT,

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. It’s meaningful to hear how the movie resonated with you, especially as both a survivor and a psychologist. Watching it with your daughters, all at different stages of life, must have been such a unique experience. I can imagine how important it was to see your middle child reflected in the movie’s messages, especially as she navigates anxiety. It’s clear that you’re doing everything you can to help her feel loved and understood.

      I hope you find even more connections when you re-watch the movie and that it continues to offer insights for you and your family.

      Warmly,
      Annie

  2. Noemi says

    I loved it. But I did not relate. I’d like to see a version for trauma. As a 13yo immigrant I was dropped into a world in which I was ignored and I did not understand. All that teenage-ness wasn’t even available to me. I was shut down and isolated. At home I was anxious in a vigilant kind of way trying to predict my mom who was unpredictable. Anxiety fits well there, but it wasn’t about fitting in, it was about avoiding my moms wrath. And I hid it really well. Nobody could know how I really felt. Again, not because of peers but because of my mom. Can you believe that my mom to this day raves about what an easy teenager I was, how she never had any kind of teenager problems with me?!! My inner teenager is rolling her eyes and raging each time I hear her say that, but outward, I’m neutral. I guess Riley does actually hide many of her feelings but again it is a peer issue for her. And yes, you are right, Annie, for me anxiety must have been there all along along with shut down, dark secrets, and shame. I love that embarrassment was such a big body. In my case it would have filled half the room as shame. And of course the beliefs would come from memories of my mom saying those things to me. Overall, the movie also really bewildered me. It was hard to follow along. What I appreciate the most is the help the movie provides understanding my own children, since I don’t have anything in my youth that compares to theirs. My children do have something close to the parents Riley does in the movie. At least we are trying hard every day. Ennui captures my 13yo son perfectly. That is super helpful. Though I still would like to understand that better.

    • Annie says

      Thank you for sharing your experience so openly. It’s clear that your teenage years were deeply impacted by trauma and the need to navigate an unpredictable home environment, which is different from the peer-focused struggles depicted in the movie. Your story of vigilance, hidden anxiety, and the weight of shame is powerful and deserves to be recognized.

      I’m glad the movie has helped you better understand your children, even if it didn’t fully resonate with your own experiences. It’s clear you’re doing the work to be a different kind of parent, which is incredibly meaningful. Thank you again for contributing your unique perspective to this conversation.

      Warmly,
      Annie

  3. Noemi says

    Oh, and when all the bad memories that were unleashed create the complexity of her sense of self that was a real light bulb moment for me! Really helpful.

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